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Power Attenuator and Load Box for Guitar Tube Amps

  • Allows playing a tube amp with high output level for optimal performance, but with reduced volume
  • Can be used as a dummy load
  • Useful tool for rehearsal, live performance and direct recording
  • Does not affect the original character and feel of the amp
  • 6 Levels of power reduction
  • "Fine" control for the -15dB option
  • Input power up to 250 W
  • LED for overload function
  • Integrated low-noise fan cooling
  • 8/16-Ohm option
  • Loudspeaker output
  • Line output with adjustable level control
  • Low impedance XLR DI output
  • Works without power supply, but aux power option can be used to keep fan and light stable independent of amplifier power supply
  • Dimensions (W x D x H): 235 x 178 x 88 mm
  • Weight: 2.67 kg
  • Myynnissä vuodesta Marraskuu 2021
  • Tuotenumero 510412
  • Myyntierä 1 kappaletta
  • Impedance 8, 16
  • Noise Supression No
  • DI Interface No
  • Speaker Simulation No
  • Dummy Load (usable without cabinet) Yes
166 €
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Great for the price - OK for attenuation, useless for profiling or reamping
Tumppu 22.09.2024
I bought this device for two purposes

1. Attenuating my 1987x

So, I have a Marshall 1987x and it has been great amp to play with; even without attenuation since you can quiet it down also by using some volume pot in the loop. But I wanted to get the volume down and not restrict how strong signal would be going to the poweramp so I looked for attenuators and since this is in very good price, I decided to give it a go. It has now been in use for less than a month so I cannot speak about durability. It gets my amp quiet enough to enjoy playing without any earplugs and to me it does it in good enough manner for me to maintain most of the sound. It seems to eat sound a little but for me this has been a good way to get to know what kind of tools these attenuators are and this thing gets a solid 9/10 for attenuation in this price range.

2. Profiling using the line out

I also bought this so that I could profile my amp in my QC for night time playing etc. I did 2 profiles of it and as I tried my profiles I was disappointed. I then decided that I take my QC out of the equation and try to reamp my sound through a solid state poweramp. So I put my 4x12 in stereo mode, set both amps in 8 ohms and then played so that first I listened to the sound which went through attenuator to one pair of speakers and it sounded great; then I silenced the amp using dummy load mode in this attenuator and put up some volume in my solid state poweramp (the other 2 speakers on the same cab) and there was the reason why I was disappointed in my profiles....the sound was really, I mean really dark compared to my amps real sound. It was (to my ear) very comparable to a sound of just an overdrive pedal running into poweramp without any eq or presence added. Completelely useless line out for my purposes. 2/10 points in this regard

So, I now have mixed feelings here, maybe I get another attenuator for profiling at some point, as for now I keep this only for attenuation. If a better product overall will find its way here, then this might go for my other amp or I might let it go, but that is not a thing for me to worry about now.

Even with its flaws I think it is not bad for the price. I think it has a good enough quality for attenuating purposes and it is definitely impressive to see that it has all these features in it but the price is so low. Hopefully it is just down to my bad luck having a bad line out or they take these in testing and do some updating on that side of things. In the end I would say it is already great to have a product like this in this price range even if it was only for attenuating a loud amp.

EDIT: After some time of using this product, I finally read the manual and found out that there is a cabinet emulation going on through the line out so THAT is why my tone was so dark and muddy on reamping and profiling, I contacted Harley Benton about it and yes, there indeed is that and you cannot disengage it.
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Brings a 100W Amplifier to bedroom levels with little loss in tone.
Zak Rahman 20.11.2021
In a nutshell:

I am extremely happy with the PA-250 and recommend it based on the details provided below:

This unit was suggested to me by the Thomann staff. I needed something because I was sick of looking at my favourite amp and not being able to use it to record or play. I don't do gigs much anymore.

For reference, here is the gear I used:
I have a Marshall JCM2000 DSL100 head. I have recently biased it and changed the power tubes to JJs. This goes into a 4x12 1960B cabinet with greenbacks. I use a Jackson soloist with Duncan Seymour JBs and Hot Rail passive pickups. I sometimes use a tube screamer. Not much of a pedal guy. For microphones, I use a SM57 and e906 combo to record my cabinet.

POSITIVE:

I have never been able to crank my amplifier above 3.5. Even when I did gigs with it at large venues, it is an insanely loud amplifier. It's a Marshall; more balls than brains. I cranked the poweramp and turned on the attenuator. I had to use the highest settings of attenuation, but it really brings it down to what I would call 'loud conversation level'. I could still have a conversation while playing.

The load box functionality and line out work very well too. I can now record a cranked JCM2000 at 2AM in the morning and everyone around me can sleep peacefully. This is a huge factor for me.

Regarding how it affects tone, in my opinion it does suck a bit of the highs away. So all I did was adjust my amp's EQ slightly and the problem was solved. I recorded the attenuated cabinet and was extremely pleased with the results. The recordings still had that 'oomf' that you get from recording a cabinet. But the volume was loud conversation level. The cranked poweramp section afforded great tones.

I tried layering the miced cab with the line out recordings (and IR-loading cabinet plugin). Once I factored in phase, the results were monstrous. I think I may prefer this to just recording the cabinet. I got a rich and powerful tone that needed very little in the way of EQ. Obviously, results here will vary wildly depending on the skill of the recording engineer.

The unit gets warm, but in my experience not hot. This is great. The fan is audible but not annoying and not loud at all. When you're recording the noise of the fan is a none-issue. If you need total silence to record something else, then you probably shouldn't have your amplifier on in the first place.

NEGATIVE:

The unit requires a power supply and this is not provided. I didn't know I needed this and was only able to have it working out of the box because I have spares. I don't think it's good enough that this detail is omitted. I have deducted a star from features for this reason. The documentation is extremely basic - but accurate. It can be relied on.

CONCLUSION:

This unit has increased my quality of work and has enabled me to do something I thought was impossible. This has given me a ton of freedom and a lot of confidence.

A bedroom player would not be able to use this very late at night if they wanted to play through the cab. But during the day and evening, it's probably fine - just check your local laws and your family/neighbours' situation. This does lead me to think that the PA-250 would be great for attenuating an amp for smaller venues in case you are a gigging musician.

I am extremely happy with this product and recommend it based on the details provided within the review.
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Cheap and...
DoctorBlue 27.11.2021
I tested the attenuator with two different amps (Marshall JMP and ENGL E650), through the same cab (Marshall 4x12).

Pros:
- it's built well, looks solid;
- it can support amps with higher power;
- it has a fan (but I don't think it is really necessary, during my test, the attenuator remained cool);
- it has a selectable impendance 8/16 ohms and a line out;
- it can go to zero.
Now, the cons:
- it drastically modifies the response of the amp - the punch is gone;
- you have to compensate with the eq of the amp;
- it robs any amp of its harmonics.

I had to return it. I also have another attenuator, which I borrowed from a friend. I won't say the name of the brand here. But it costs 6 times as much. That attenuator really makes a difference. If you care about your sound and how it feels when you are playing it, you have to look elsewhere. If you are on a budget, you can be happy with this Harley Benton. I really think this company has made big steps and improves constantly.
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Great Product at a Great Price
e_minor_pentatonic@yahoo.com 15.12.2024
This does what it is supposed to do. Some have stated that it hurts the sound a bit, but I don't think it does. Some have stated the harmonics suffer, but that happens on all my amps as I turn them down. This allows me to run a tube amp direct to a board or computer with or without sound from the amp.
It works fine with my 160 watt amp and all my smaller ones as well.
The manual is easy to understand and covers all the bases.
The price is well worth paying for a quality product.
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