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Kühnl & Hoyer Bart van Lier .480/88" MKII

Tenor Trombone

  • "Bart van Lier" model
  • Material: Brass
  • Train made of nickel silver
  • Painted with gold paint
  • Double bore: 12.2 / 12.4 mm
  • Bell: 180 mm
  • Incl. silver plated BvL 8E mouthpiece
  • Without case
  • Especially suited for jazz, pop, salsa or Big Band
  • The curved holding bar on the slide provides a particularly comfortable position for holding the instrument
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  • Jazz
  • Traditional

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Bell (Material) Brass
Material draget German Silver
Incl. Case / Gigbag No
Finish Gold Lacquer Lacquered
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"More Vintage Conn than Modern King"

Bob M., 03.01.2014
This IS an instrument "Specially made for Jazz, Pop, Salsa or Big Band music" to quote the product description, and has a very small bore by modern standards.
I use it in a small group setting where it has a nice warm "core" sound at a lower volume and speaks very clearly when played loudly.
Playing high and loud it's more "projecting" than "sweet" and has a nice controlled tone when played in the lower register. I haven't felt the need to change to a bigger mouthpiece yet.

It feels like a very solid instrument, and a little heavier than I expected, the (very smooth) nickel slide is a little heavy compared with similar instruments from the USA. I don't have a problem with this and it may be the reason for it's solid sound.

The build quality is exemplary, there's not a trace of solder around any of the joints, and having played it a lot since August 2012 there's no sign of lacquer wear at all, not even on the neck pipe.

I bought this instrument knowing nothing about Kühnl & Hoyer, but after hearing a few users on YouTube I took a gamble and bought one.

It would be good if the removable leadpipe option was standard and with a greater choice, 3 rather than the current 2, one of which is silver, which is very expensive..

To sum up, it's more "vintage Conn" than "modern King", and made for a specific purpose which it does very well.
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Marc2809, 18.05.2015
I've been looking for a trombone for playing in Jazzcombos and the first voice in the big band. After intensive search I found with this model for me the ideal instrument. Sound and speech, above all the sound potential of this model convinced me from the very first sound, leaving all other models I have tested clearly behind them:
The full round sound harmoniously blends in with the big band in the block game, but it is easy and very relaxed to be able to sing out in solopassages. In small orchestras (jazz quartet), the tonal qualities can of course be individually even more detailed. Here, too, the instrument inspires me in all volume and in all styles.
The intonation is consistently outstanding, the workmanship really excellent. The concept of this instrument (nickel silver, double drilling) is, in my view, simply coherent for the above-mentioned situation and contributes in every respect.
Also the BvL-mouthpiece is (so individual mouthpiece claims and -vorlagen are) very well usable.
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