Bruno Tilz E.Schmid 85 French Horn

Mouthpiece For French Horn

  • Model 85 E.Schmid
  • Inner drum shell Ø: 17.5 mm
  • OD Ø: 25.5 mm
  • Bore: 4.3 mm
  • Cup depth: Medium, slightly bulbous drum shell
  • Medium wide rim: 4.0 mm
  • Silver plated

Further Information

Cup Depth medium
Cup Diameter in mm 17,50 mm
Finish Silver Plated
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Für mich das passendste der Tilz E. Schmidt Serie
Reinhold B., 29.10.2009
Das Bruno Tilz E. Schmidt 85 hat sich für mich als das passende Tilz Mundstück herausgestellt. Nach Telefonaten mit Tilz persönlich sowie mit der Thomann Brass Abteilung habe ich fünf mir neue Mundstücke probiert (Schmidt 8, 85, 9; Tilz McWilliam 2 sowie ein Stork Orval 5; Alle 17,5mm Innenrand).
Die Tilz E.Schmidt Modelle haben einen identischen Rand und unterscheiden sich in Kesseltiefe und Bohrung (Schaft).

Wie in meinen anderen Bewertungen zum Schmidt 8 und 9 (die ebenfalls sehr gut spielbar sind) schon erwähnt, ist das 85 für mich die beste Wahl da für meine Lippen und Art des Spielens ich beim Tilz E.Schmidt 85 in tiefen sowie hohen Lagen die beste Kontrolle und Anpsprechverhalten festgestellt habe.

Lasst euch von der Kesseltiefenbezeichnung nicht in die Irre führen. Das 85 und 9 mit 'Mittel Tief' oder 'Tiefen' Kessel lassen sich sehr gut in der hohen Lage Spielen, mit vollem und doch klarem Klang.

Wichtig zu wissen: Die Kesseltiefen (und Bezeichnungen) sind in Abhängigkeit vom Innendurchmesser angegeben. Ich besitze noch ein Bruno Tilz E.Schmidt 11 (18mm, Mittelflach) (durch Zufall in die Finger bekommen) das mir ein wenig zu weit ist aber ansonsten sehr gut gefallen hat, daher die Suche nach dem passendem 17,5mm B. Tilz.

Laut Auskunft von Tilz ist die Kesseltiefe des E.Schmidt 11 (welches als MF bezeichnet wird) mit der Kesseltiefe vom E.Schmidt 9 (17,5mm, T) ungefähr vergleichbar. Dies passt auch zu meinen Feststellungen.
Das 11er ist also ein bisschen tiefer als das 85, obwohl Mittel Flach bezeichnet gegenüber Mittel Tief beim 85...

Noch ein Hinweis an Thomann: Mir wurde zugesichert dass Bruno Tilz E.Schmidt Mundstücke neuer Bauart angeboten werden. Da die Bruno Tilz E.Schmidt Reihe seit 2008 mit neuen Bohrungen und Schäfte gefertigt werden ist dies nicht unwichtig zu wissen.

Allerdings werden auf den Thomann Webseiten noch die alten Maße genannt (z.B. das E.Schmidt 85 hat jetzt 4,3mm Bohrung gegenüber 4,1mm früher).
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