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Finally...
Ben27, 06.08.2014
So: this is a review coming from someone who grew up on Cubase VST 3.5 and has been with Steinberg since then.

Over the years, PT seems to have gone from an exclusive club that involved Digidesign interfaces and Apple-only hardware, to something at comes bundled free with an entry-level soundcard. The latest version seems quite happy on a myriad of hardware, so I figured it was about time to try it out.

Why the switch? As I've become more involved in professional music production, I've used external studios more and more: and they all run Pro Tools. Not Reaper, not Logic, certainly not Live, Cubase or Sonar, but Pro Tools. I was fed up of having to read up which key commands are used to split audio, fed up of not understanding why recording over the top of something didn't just create a new layer, why selecting audio was a PITA... and the only way to learn something is to use it. Hence the purchase...

My PC is a few years old i5 3.3GHz with 8Gb of RAM and a bunch of external hard-drives. I run Windows 7 64bit and have an Aurora 16 interface over USB. PT runs with little to no effort clocking ~6ms latency at 48kHz.

So. The Good:
1) It's Pro Tools. Learn it. No more hassles with OMF files, no more interchange issues, no more questions about "what's that you're using", and you have the confidence to hire any studio and know how to use the system without a crib-sheet.
2) It takes you a while to get your head around the workflow, but then you realise it's more flexible than (say) Cubase in many ways.
3) Shortcuts, shortcuts and more shortcuts. Editing becomes very quick when you realise you can use a few keyboard presses to accomplish what was a click and drag operation elsewhere...


The bad:
1) The single biggest thing I can think of for someone coming to PT from any other DAW is THINK TAPE. In every other DAW, if you record over something and then delete it, the thing you recorded over is still there. In PT, it's not. Why? Because that's not what would happen with tape. The audio is technically still there, but it's no-longer in the channel. Get your head around this, and half the battle is won.
2) Comping with playlists still leaves a lot to be desired.
3) AAX. Oooooh, let's change the plugin specification shall we? In the beginning, there was VST, and developers made plugins that worked for it. Then PT came along with TDM and RTAS and the same developers adapted the plugins to work with that too. Now Avid have ditched TDM and RTAS, in favour of the new AAX format - which means developers have to re-build their plugins again. The bigger/better developers (Waves, Native Instruments) - not a problem. Some smaller ones (Novation, Korg), can't be bothered. Ohmforce haven't even acknowledged AAX, it seems, and since we're now into August (traditionally French holiday season) I doubt we'll see any change from them until spring next year. So: buyer beware...
4) Avid software with non-Avid hardware on a non-Mac will always throw up a few quirks. Mine is that PT can't change my Aurora's sample rate without crashing, so I have to set it before opening up a project...
5) Yes, you have Pro Tools, but it's not Pro Tools HD - so you don't get some of the fancy automation functions, or the gain reduction meters in the mixer. I don't see it as a big deal, but it's a shame that Avid feel the need to put it software restrictions, when they're already restricting it with HD's hardware requirements...
6) Pro Tools I'm likening to the old adage of a BMW, where the only thing you got as standard was the steering wheel. You suddenly take for granted the bundled Variaudio pitch correction and convolution reverbs with Cubase, when you compare them to the price of Melodyne and Altiverb... I'm not suggesting that Melodyne and Altiverb are not worth the price, but the cost of not only the DAW, but then additional plugins to make up the shortfall in whatever you're used to, can be prohibitive.

Adding up pros/cons, you'd think there's no way you should be buying PT11. In fact, I can't recommend it enough: yes it's expensive, yes it's complicated, but get your head around it and you'll never feel like using anything else.
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The best DAW for post production!
Nycollas, 18.07.2018
PT12 is just the best DAW for post production, mixing, editing and anything you want to do that doens't involve MIDI!! Its just a pain in the ass doing midi with PT, but nothing is perfect.
Much better when you have a MAC, its not the best DAW for windows.. sorry to say.. many shortcuts dont work like in mac (CTRL= doenst work every time in Win8.. i need to do ALT= and after try again CTRL= anyway...), a lot of crashes in windows.. it closes and doesnt open until you restart.. impossible to change buffer size without quitting PT.. But with my macbook pro it runs perfectly!!
If you are a win user its better to try it before buying.. maybe cubase will do the job faster..
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Great Software
06.03.2017
i'm not yet controlling all the options in the software but it is user friendly and i'm happy with that so far.
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What can i say, simply the best editing tool on the market.
David L. 768, 08.02.2016
Pro tools ( Native ) is my Recording and editing DAW of choice, have not found another DAW to beat that.

However all my mixing work is done on Cubase Pro 8, it sounds smoother and much is easier to use hardware as plugins.

Great tool.
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Genial
RASTARECORDS, 08.03.2017
Finally it becames so creative to make music because of the number of possibilities and tools we have, sound is amazing, workflow is so cool and effective ! Im really in love with my PT12.7.1 . Also the samplebank, and freeze/comit stuff thats so cool also! I could spend my day talking how great it is, even if i think its a little too expensive to get to the HD point, im fine with my PT! Hope it keeps improoving! Good job everybody
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Best Sounding DAW? possibly
Andre1865, 14.10.2016
Ive used Logic & Ableton over the years. Every DAW has its pros & cons. Logic sounds good but was always a pain to use.. Ableton has the opposite problem. Simple to use but things quickly sound .. weird n rubbery or just not quite right in the bottom end.. plus it has that stylised techno user interface which can get annoying after a while.

I wanted something that sounded as Neutral as possible and would allow me to mix as many channels of digital audio as i wanted ,without it sounding cheap.. Pro Tools is what i chose and so far, so good..

its not the easiest app to use, especially if you're coming from tools like ableton that have made convenient shortcuts + workarounds for things ,but once you get over those things, your sound will improve.
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It's Pro Tools
Kevin W Smith, 15.05.2018
Better at midi work than expected. Editing audio and midi together with the same tools and keyboard commands is a real time saver. v2018.4 with High Sierra is is very stable for me but CPU efficiency could be better. What else is there to say, it's Pro Tools.
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Great bundle
09.08.2016
It is really useful to have both 10 & 11 versions and now 12 either! Great Thomann, you did it. As usual!
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Pro Tools 11
Paul2806, 13.01.2014
Super Software A 1
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